Wednesday, January 15, 2014

Glock G42 .380 vs Ruger LCP .380: A Woman's Perspective

I wanted to give a different spin on all the reviews about the new Glock .380 aka the G42....namely as a female concealed carrier who only uses a bra holster.  I am not a firearms technical expert so don't ask me spec questions about the gun.  You can easily Google and find that info all over the Internet right now.  What I'm giving you is real world info...what does it feel like to shoot, how easily is it concealed, what do I like, and, surprisingly, what do I dislike as an owner of this gun.

The argument whether a .380 has sufficient firepower to stop somebody will not be regurgitated here.  If my option is having a gun, any gun, or having none at all, I'll take having a gun, any gun, even if it's a .22 or a .380.  And whether you men out there will admit it or not, many of you believe that women can only handle a .22 revolver anyway.  So a .380 semi-auto should be a step up for us women in your opinion.  But don't get me started on that subject.

The fact that I carry a loaded gun with one in the chamber under my breast pointed at my heart should indicate my level of seriousness with firearms.  I have ccw'd a Ruger LCP .380 for several years, and have longed for the day that I could replace it with something with a friendlier, gentler trigger pull.  As a diehard Glock fan when I first heard rumors about the possibility of a Glock .380 last year I was beside myself with anticipation.  When my husband texted me a photo of a G42 he had just unpacked from a small shipment of LE sales only G42's that had just arrived at the gunstore locally where he works last week before Shot Show, I couldn't drive over to the store fast enough to get one.  Consequently I also had to get a custom holster made for it since the gun isn't even available for sale yet.


G42 (left) Ruger (right)
Top: Kahr 9 mil
Middle: Ruger LCP .380
Bottom: Glock G42

Size matters. 
Clearly the Glock is still longer than the others.  The Kahr is wider top to bottom.  The Ruger is clearly the smallest overall.  Side by side the Glock is not much wider than the Ruger.  I preferred the grip on the Glock as the Ruger grip is very small and even with my small hands you can tend to "teacup".  So if you want the smallest ccw gun of these 3, the Ruger wins hands down.












Glock vs. Glock

Comparing the G42 against the G26 the difference in length is easily visible as are the differences in sites.  Although I still found the Glock 42 sites to be better than the Ruger.  Side by side you can also clearly see the difference in width, which is something I get asked about frequently.  The G42 is very friendly to a woman's smaller hands (although personally I have no complaint with the 9 mil). 
G42 .380 (top)
G26 9 mil (bottom)
G26 (left); G42 (right)


Shooting the G42. 
When I did finally get to take her out of the case and shoot her, I was so excited all my skills flew out the window and I broke my wrist and made her jam 6 times in a row.  Once I figured out it was me, the shooter, causing the error and that nothing was wrong with my new gun, I fixed it and she shot just fine.  Any of you who has shot a Ruger LCP know how stinking horrible (technical term), long and hard that trigger pull is.  The Glock's trigger pull is just as you would expect from any Glock, smooth and easy.  I can probably have her tweaked just a little like my 9 mil trigger and it will be amazing.  The trigger pull on the Glock out of the case is pleasurable in comparison to the Ruger.  I know you diehard 1911 fans aren't always Glock fans, but I still convinced one of my 1911 fan girlfriends to buy the last G42 we had available down here last week after she shot mine.  Put it this way, when I practice with my Ruger LCP, after shooting only 12 rounds I cannot sign my name.  My hand hurts that badly.  With the Glock, not an issue.  Operating the slide of the Glock was just as expected, it moves easily and the slide lock works well.  In comparison to the Ruger, the smallness sometimes makes manipulating the Ruger slide harder, and the slidelock on the Ruger is very small.  The G42 comes with a magazine that holds 6 plus 1 in the chamber.  I also definitely preferred the much more visible white sights of the Glock over the barely visible sights on the Ruger.   To be fair, it's been a while since I shot the Kahr 9 mil, so I can't really compare the Glock to the Kahr, but the Ruger LCP is definitely my least favorite of the 3 to shoot.  Glock wins.


G42 in Gunners Custom Holsters bra holster (top)
Ruger LCP in a flashbang (bottom)
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Concealing the G42. 
Concealing the new Glock .380 is another matter, one that I was not as fully satisfied with unfortunately and surprisingly.  This was due mostly to the way I ccw.  I ONLY ccw in a bra holster so I had to have a custom one made for the G42 since the gun's not even available yet.  Gunners Custom Holsters (go find his Facebook page and like it) is a local manufacturer of custom kydex holsters and was able to do a rush job and make me a holster that same day I bought the gun.  So he's already got holsters for the G42 ready to go soon as you buy yours!

[My girlfriends all jokingly said that the Glock gives better cleavage after seeing this photo.]

My complaints about concealing the G42 have nothing to do with the holster I had made but are only with the gun itself.  The holster was perfectly made and held tightly around the gun.  Gunner does use a firmer plastic strap in lieu of the suede strap that comes with the Flashbang brand bra holster.  His strap held the holster up higher like I prefer, although the harder strap does "imprint" where the suede one doesn't.  So I might switch out his strap for the suede.  Another 2 important facts to note about bra holsters are that 1) I only wear and recommend wearing underwire bras with these holsters (and in general), and 2) I do not snap the bra holster the way the instructions tell you to.  I snap it with the strap "upside down" with the button up top.  I have found that this holds the holster up much higher and tighter than the "normal" or correct way and prevents the holster from slipping out from under the bra.  It also reduces the chance of the gun "imprinting" or having its outline be easily visible on your clothing.  I'll post a separate blog with my instructions for snapping a bra holster.

Top: Ruger LCP with flashbang
Bottom: G42 with custom bra holster
The issue with ccw'ing the G42 specifically in a bra holster is easily seen when you look at the Ruger LCP next to the G42.  The Glock is clearly longer and the slide is more rectangular, like the regular Glock 9 mil.  The distance between the trigger guard, trigger, and muzzle is also shorter on the Ruger.  The Ruger slide also has a more rounded end (VERY important as I found out).  So simply put, the longer length of the G42 causes the slide to pinch the bottom of one breast and the muzzle to poke the wearer in the other breast.  I wore the gun in the bra holster for 12 hours and at the end of the day the muzzle and slide had left physical dents or marks under my breasts on the skin (I will spare you the photo of that painful sight although I did it send to all my TWAW leader-sisters).  the Ruger's shorter length never did that to me.  On the positive side, however, my new holster held the G42 up so high that the grip didn't poke me in the belly when I'm seated like the Ruger always does do.  So my options are getting poked in the belly (Ruger) or pinched in the boobs (Glock).  Nice.

Final thoughts. 
Long story short....am I satisfied with the G42?  Yes!   Do I love the trigger pull of the G42 compared to the Ruger LCP?  HELL YES!   Is the G42 as well concealed in a bra holster as the Ruger?  Yes.  Is the G42 as comfortable to wear in a bra holster as the Ruger?  No.  Will that last fact make me stop ccw'ing it in a bra holster?  No.  Why? Because I hate carrying a purse and I want my gun ON me.  The bra holster is the fastest, best option for me for that.  Should you run out and buy the G42 as soon as you can find one for sale?  My opinion, yes!  Or...wait for them to come out with the 9 mil in this size as rumor has it will be happening next.

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Nicolle Fedor Griffin is an NRA Certified Basic Pistol Instructor and Chapter Leader of the Well Armed Woman (TWAW) Yuma Arizona Chapter, the largest chapter of TWAW in the country with 160 members.
















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Special thanks to https://www.facebook.com/GunnersCustomHolsters for the 1 day turn around on the custom bra holster.  Please visit and like his page and let him make your custom holster for your G42 too.




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5 comments:

  1. I got wood looking at the Bra Holster. Now that is a nice rig! Thanks.

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  2. I also have the LCP and then bought the 42. I really liked the ease of carrying the LCP but you are so right, it's a bear to practice with and the sights are awful. I miss that I could carry it in an ankle holster with my work slacks, and I do have one for the 42 but it just isn't as comfortable. But I use a belly band with the 42 and it really works very well because I can move it up or down on my belly and around me, so I can be comfortable if I had a big meal ;) I also had problems with the 42 jamming and stovepiping and thought it was me - turned out it doesn't like 90 grain ammo but likes 95 grain. Excellent article, this is the kind of basic information many women want to know.

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  3. Nice article. I was thinking about both of these for my wife. BTW I do own a LCP. My thought was why not carry with an IWB like a Crossbreed Supertuck? I carry a G27 daily in one and it's very comfortable. The belly band doesn't sound too bad but I just wonder how easy it would be to get to your gun in a bra holster under stress? Thoughts?

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  4. Ahhh, THANK YOU! Finally, useful infomation for a small framed woman. Considering Glock targets (sorry, no pun intended) women for this model, I really don't think they provide as much comparison information and compelling sales tactics as they could. Your photo comparisons are exceptionally helpful. I don't think a bra holster is for me, but all the information you gave has convconvinced me that the G42 is just what I am looking for.

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  5. Very good article, I bought a 42 for my wife, she loves it and shoots it well. I liked it so much I sold my Kahr p9 and bought a 42 for myself. You should carry a gun you can shoot accurately and carry comfortably, regardless of caliber. Something is better than nothing. Never carry your weapon in your purse, that's just graduation day for a purse snatcher, imo.

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